Richard Lloyd Jones: Our thinking, our philosophies of life, these are things we take for granted most of the time. That's just the way it is, we say, and we step out confidently upon that premise. But what extensive research and clinical study from Brazil is showing us is that we would do well to investigate a little deeper. Our thinking, as it turns out, is not always our own.
I'm Richard Lloyd Jones, and today on Thinking with Somebody Else's Head, Fathers of Our Inverted Science, Part 2. Last time on our program, Cesar Soós and I began our discussion about the leading thinkers who have had such an impact on our human civilization and how their mistakes have led us collectively to the mess our modern society finds itself in today. We talked about Aristotle's monumental error of placing the senses as the determiner of knowledge.
Nothing comes to the mind which doesn't pass first through the senses, Aristotle asserted, thereby enshrining sensory positivistic science as the lord of the domain. Aristotle's ideas were resisted for a few centuries, particularly by Augustine, who leaned more towards Plato's universality, and Anselm. But Aquinas, the great medieval theologian, brought Aristotle back to the forefront, and the battle was on. Francis Bacon, Descartes, Comte followed, and science changed from considering more metaphysical explanations for the origin of things to seeing all phenomena only in terms of its physical characteristics.
Left in the wake as well were the moral or theological tenets of science, which became strictly materialistic. Materialistic. The Big Bang, the search for the particles that cause gravity or even intelligence and creativity, the destruction of material nature to get energy, all are consequences of this academic difference of opinion.
Right away we can see that philosophy and theology have dramatically influenced science, which does not come solely from experimentation at all, as scientists would have us believe. Dr. Norberto Keppe's Analytical Trilogy is a more advanced science because it accepts the important discoveries and truths from philosophy and theology in its scientific postulates. Dr. Keppe was telling a group of us recently that Analytical Trilogy is a science that accepts and integrates what's true from all fields.
And this is possible because of two things. Keppe's establishing of a true metaphysics on which to base an analysis of anything, and Keppe's clarification of what's going on in the human psyche, which causes us to misinterpret reality and put all sorts of inverted ideas into our theories. This is no small thing and difficult to explain in entirety, so I encourage you to read Keppe's work to get a fuller view.
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Cláudia Bernhardt Pacheco: Any area of endeavor, it's very much stopped by this concept of money, the importance of money. This is the biggest inversion in society.
Richard: In the mid-1980s, Norberto Keppe wrote an extraordinary book that redefined economics and gave us hope.
Sofie Bergqvist: And I understand now that this book, Working Capital, is really the solution. Solution. It gives people enormous freedom to grow and to do even things more beautiful and better for the community and better for
Richard: everybody. Work and capital is Norberto Keppe's provocative and prophetic view of how the economy has been usurped by the 1% who've tricked the people into a form of slavery.
Now we have the means to set ourselves free.
Cláudia: We are free in economy to work, to do what is good, beautiful and truthful for humanity and not to feed the envy, the megalomania, the theomania of a few individuals or powerful people. Norbert
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Richard: Thinking with Somebody Else's Head is on the Stop Radio Network. I'm Richard Lloyd Jones, and Cesar Soós is with me again. We're wading into some pretty controversial territory. I know that, you know, says we get letters when we do these kinds of shows, and that's totally fine with us. And I don't want to seem that we're going out of our way to be controversial, because that's not our intention, right?
But I feel there's something so deep in Dr. Keppe's exploration and consideration of the principle he calls inversion, that I think this applies directly to the scientific worldview that we live under. Because let's face it, that scientific worldview is coloring how we see reality. And if there's something inverted in it, we need to pay attention to that. We need to understand that better.
So we're looking at the fathers of the lie, these scientists who've led us into our current worldview through the inverted theories that they've elaborated. So we had a good look at a few of those fathers of the lie in part one of our program. Now we're into part two, and our next guy on the hit parade, six, five, number four on our hit parade is Karl Marx.
Karl Marx. Yeah, this is, I think, something that's very interesting to talk about because we have all been socialized in my part of the world.
Canada's, I would say, a more socialized country, very much like the Scandinavian countries. And so we have been very Marxized. We're not a communist country. We have social programs, but we've been very Marxized without perceiving it. We are thinking with Marx's head.
Cesar Soós: Oh, a lot.
Richard: How? How do you see this, Cesar?
Cesar: The way Marx can fit into this list is also the same way the others we have spoken before.
Marx gave this idea they all attack the spirituality so Marx gave first the idea that spirituality he said church but I speak by saying church institution he was meaning other thing.
Richard: The natural religiosity.
Cesar: Natural spirituality yeah that this was the opium
of the people. So what did he put in the
Cesar: place of the church? Do you know what? The state it is even worse.
So now instead of believing that god is the owner of your body and soul, for example, in in marxist countries you believe the state is the owner of your body and soul.
If you have a soul they don't even believe in that. So what this led to, I remember some years ago a group of terrorists invade a school in russia, in soviet union, and putin simply asked the policeman to enter and kill the hijackers, the terrorists. Not
Richard: waiting to get the children out.
Cesar: Yeah, they didn't want to make any deal, you know. What was the result of that?
More than 300 kids, they were killed. That was a big slaughter, you know. And then you say, oh my God, this is crazy. How come he did that? And in human rights, well, the answer to that is that for Russian people, your body belongs to the state. It doesn't belong to God or there is no ethics at all. Your body belongs to the state.
If they believe they can kill you they will do it, if it's good for the state. So there is no deal with them. So in other words they cut, Marx helped humanity to praise institutions to be like slaves of institutions.
In other
Richard: words we need the institutions, without the institutions
Cesar: we're dead, we're done for, institutions are the
church today in Russia. Institutions are like the gods. But, you know, it's very interesting
Richard: because this is not true only in socialist or communist countries, but in our capitalist countries we see now a lot of this kind of mandating by the state. You know, the home security, they deem that there's a terrorist attack, and by instituting the various laws, the Patriots Act, they take away the freedoms of the individual
Cesar: in favor of the state.
And in the capitalist countries and democratic countries like our country, in the United States especially. And what happens? Media is used to brainwash the people. What is interesting for the capitalist, savage capitalists, the media says. What is not, they don't say.
They don't talk about.
Richard: They don't talk about. And they mandate all sorts of things by saying, well, now we have a national crisis. A domestic crisis, and so we have to force you to do something that you don't want to do, but you have to do for the good of the state. Or we have secrets that we have to keep secret from you, because the state needs to keep this state a secret.
But what is the state? The state is the people in the country, and so...
Cesar: Yeah, like this case of the swine flu, for example. They made such a thing out of nothing, you know. And now they are selling millions and millions and millions of vaccines just for profits of
Richard: pharmaceutical companies. We know that. Yes, I'm thinking of this current situation where some people want to start suing the CIA for illegal torture, what they consider torture of prisoners.
And the way is that the state had of getting around the Geneva Convention by saying that these people don't belong to a country, they're independent of any country. Therefore, they don't adhere to the Geneva Convention. What's this? This is lawyerese, you know, to find a way around what we know to be ethical and true. This is evil. Yes. Really,
Cesar: it is. Really evil.
This is Karl Marx.
Richard: Next, we have Adam Smith. And right along with Karl Marx, right, we have Adam Smith. Marx coming after Smith, but here on the hit parade. Smith being of more concern for Dr. Keppe in terms of the people who've caused the problems. Smith being of more serious nature than Marx.
Cesar: Yeah, I think, I don't know, well, Darwin may have based his theory on Adam Smith as well.
Because he said, in other words, he led humanity to believe that whoever has money or succeeds in the money market, this guy is evolved, is the strongest, and he has the rights, for example, to step on the others down because this is part of natural evolution.
But the basic problem of Adam Smith is that when he set forth his book, The Wealth of Nations in 1776, if I'm not wrong, he said that if you allow people to look for what they want. If you give them free reign for it. To do whatever they want. Whatever they want. In the end, the equilibrium will be reached through an invisible hand.
Like the fate of nature would lead humanity to be in equilibrium. And everyone would be pleased having what they wanted. In
the end, everything would be okay. Everything would be okay. It would come out all right. In a capitalistic society. Well, that's very naive.
Cesar: Very, very naive. And he shows that he had no knowledge of psychopathology at all, you know, at all.
And this is the system we are living today. And worst of all is that he continued. He said that when somebody achieved their goals, achieved what he wanted, he would help others to achieve their goals as well, showing even more naive yet.
Richard: Which became Reagan's supply-side economics. "You give the benefits to the people with the money because if they have the money and they are successful, that naturally is going to trickle down to the people." Yeah. But
Cesar: that's totally crazy. This is totally crazy. We are living inside the capitalistic system and we don't stop to think that the roots are these roots. Yes. We are living the thoughts of these guys, as if money could buy everything in life.
Everything is what money can buy. It's a materialistic society. In
Richard: fact, we really, we should try to control the people, because if we are free to do whatever we want, we will create exactly the kind of chaos that we see in the planet today. We will destroy everything. And so this has to be controlled inside the human being. Adam Smith said, "no, just let it go.
Everything will be fine."
It'll all come out okay in the end. This is very, very naive.
Cesar: And this beast of Adam Smith taught other little beasts who followed him that the market will have to supply things for the needs of the people. But if you have a product and there is no need, what do you do? You use the market to create the need. So you create a lot of stupid needs.
So people start to destroy even more of the planet we live.
Richard: And this idea of a free market is totally crazy. It's not a free market at all. It's totally influenced. It's influenced by various members along the chain who have more influence, who have more say than others. And not to mention government. We're talking huge corporations now with millions, billions of dollars to spend on marketing, to stimulate, to create a need, to create a desire or to take away a desire, to control the means of production, to control the distribution of goods.
If we have another product that comes out on the market and the big guy doesn't like the product, he just completely destroys it, absorbs it. And so we don't have a free
Cesar: market at all. We have a totally dominated market by this powerful, animal, savage capitalism. You said it very nicely, Richard, because one of the basic things of the false prophet, characteristics of this false prophet, of the Antichrist, let's say, is to make you believe you are free.
But you are a complete slave of the system. Complete, complete, complete slave of the system. We believe in what the media says. We believe we are free. We believe we live in a democratic world. But I ask you one question. Is it democracy when you brainwash the people and you ask them to vote? If you have a lot of brainwashed people, they will vote in what you want.
Yeah, for sure. Nobody asks that. They
believe their choice is democracy. And
Richard: if you just look at the area of marketing, spin doctors, all of the people going into these kinds of branding areas, spin doctors, these are all coming from psychology. They're using the techniques of psychology, of mass convincing of people. They're using this for their purposes, for what they want, the agenda that they want to further.
Cesar: For example, in this last September 11, I was watching the TV. They were replaying on TV what happened in the Twin Towers eight years ago. And they were interviewing people on the street saying, what is your response to that? And people were furious saying, we have to invade Arabia and kill them all. They deserve to be extinguished from Earth. You know, this is a way of brainwashing people to provoke wars.
American economy was completely ruined like it is now. One war in Iraq was not enough to recover the American economy. Now they are trying with this swine flu and whatever other flus. I don't know what will they come up in the future. Adam Smith's capitalistic idea didn't work. No, it's dead. And in this sense, Karl Marx was right when he said that he criticized capitalism, saying that in the end of capitalism you would have two sides.
On one side you would have a very little people with all the money and all the goods, the halves, and the other side the
Richard: other half, the have-nots. It's like 90 10 right. The have-nots is like 90 and the halves is like 10, and this gap is increasing, increasing. Yeah, and as Norberto
Cesar: Keppe has said many times, if you want to have peace and opportunity
Richard: for people you need social justice.
So we don't have it with that situation that exists. Well we need to take a break, we're coming back in just a moment though, don't go too far away, we'll finish our look at the fathers of the lie when we come back. I'm Thinking with Somebody Else's Head in just a moment on the stop radio
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Cláudia: network. Since the beginning of all civilizations they had always manifested in enormous interest and knowledge about the spiritual life and spiritual beings. It's
Richard: a world of ancient wisdom that modern science has
Cesar: eliminated. The arising philosophy of positivism preferred to base science on material happenings. So only
Cláudia: what you can see and touch and feel is real.
Richard: Now spirituality is being put back into science. Imagine
Cláudia: what would happen if people start considering this as a real thing. Not only as a religious thing, but also a real scientific thing. Imagine what would happen. Norberto
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Richard: Somebody Else's Head. I'm Richard Lloyd Jones and welcome back to fathers of the lie part two. Says your sauce he's with me, a co-inventor of the Keppe motor. We've been exploring the various inversions in science that have led humanity to such a disastrous dead end. And, you know, Cesar, having studied Norberto Keppe's new physics derived from a disinverted metaphysics for so many years, and also being a very talented engineer and scientist, he's uniquely equipped to offer Norberto Keppe's scientific perspective in the language of English.
Of course, Keppe does all that very well.
But, you know, because of Keppe's reintegration of philosophy and theology back into science, this has expanded the perspective completely and allowed us to analyze previous scientific mistakes that have affected our technology, our education, our public policy, and even our worldview so drastically.
And you know because as we have this inverted attitude we see reality wrongly we see it upside down so imagine how that affects our scientific theories and that's what we're exploring in this program so cesar our next guy we're coming to number one number two is einstein and again we get letters when we talk about him he is a a real god and i'm sure he was not intentionally part of this i'm sure none of them were really intentionally trying to to do this but
Sofie: they were really led astray by
Richard: the false prophet by false ideas and by the false metaphysics that we talked about at the beginning of aristotle einstein's great flaw and he's led us into a lot of problems especially in our energy policy in the world what
Cesar: was it one of the criticisms we get when we speak about einstein is that when we say the dr Keppe said the mistake of einstein was to believe that energy comes from matter all the physicists come and say "oh no einstein never said that" i'm sorry to say for these physicists and and that they don't understand anything of philosophy at all they should study philosophy first because einstein was based on a philosophy a previous philosophy.
And the simple formula E equals mc squared shows that energy comes from matter, because if you don't have matter, you don't have
Richard: energy. Energy equals mass, matter, times the speed of
Cesar: light squared. If you take the m out of the equation, you have no E. Energy is zero. So that's the reason why Einstein is considered, when we study philosophy of relativity, Einstein is considered the most materialistic scientist of all.
In history. In history, with
his theory. His theory is completely materialistic. He completely instituted
Cesar: the idea of nothing in science. Or you have matter and energy encapsulated in matter, in particles, or you have nothing. And even worse than that, he linked energy to external motion, as if the speed of light would lead to energy. Mass in speed would increase and lead to energy.
This is crazy, you know, because external motion comes from internal vibration.
The same mistake Freud did in his psychology, Einstein did in his physics. And the entire world follows and doesn't perceive that. Something so clear. And that's why the phenomenon of resonance was put aside, because the resonance is the word that explains how the universe was created and put together. But for Einstein, this was not even considered. You know why? Because if matter is the essence of the universe, so where resonance has place?
Richard: No need for resonance. No
Cesar: need for resonance as the primary variable of the universe, you see. Right. But, opposition of Einstein, we had Nikola Tesla in the beginning of the century. And Nikola Tesla was saying that Einstein would lead with this idea to the destruction of the physical world, not only through the creation of the atomic bomb, which was also a bad thing that happened, but we would deplete the material world in search for elements, material elements to extract energy.
Richard: Which is exactly what we're doing. We're looking for more material elements to get the energy from. And now we're looking for like more renewable resources like growing sugar cane to make ethanol or corn or whatever. We're looking for wind power. We're looking for energy from the sun. We're looking for these kinds of forms and we're missing the whole aspect of the energy that exists through the resonance of energy with this universal source of energy.
Cesar: So, I would like to clarify that for Dr. Keppe, energy is emanated from the being, from this Godfather. The Godfather emanates this energy and through resonance, this energy creates particles. And energy is always superior to matter, is not equivalent like Einstein meant. Energy superior to matter, where there is no matter, there is energy. Vacuum, there is energy.
Today, quantum physics says that, but in a wrong way as well, because they believe this energy comes from ghost particles in virtual world. This is crazy. It's a crazy theory. So
Richard: Einstein has led us into a strictly material, using material to get energy, and this is very, very destructive.
Cesar: And you see, Richard, the underlying idea behind all of these thinkers we just commented now is materialism, is to cut with spirituality.
Freud, Darwin, Karl Marx, Adam Smith, Einstein, and the next one.
Richard: Louis Pasteur.
Cesar: Which is the biggest beast of all, Louis Pasteur.
Richard: And we're just starting to study him now here in Dr. Keppe's work because nobody has sort of questioned this. But now that we're starting to look at this a lot closer, we can see that Pasteur did an enormous disservice by projecting that the problem of the disease comes from a microbe, a germ, a virus, a bacteria from the outside in, created, augmented the paranoia of the human being.
And this is a totally materialistic idea again, and a wrong idea.
Cesar: In his times, Richard, there was another scientist called Béchamp, Antoine Béchamp, another French scientist, both of them biologists. And what happened? And Béchamp had another opinion about the diseases, the opposite opinion, let's say. Béchamp believed that the internal structure of the body would create bacteria. The internal
environment. Yes.
Richard: We're talking about the environment inside, the way
the person is inside.
This would
Cesar: create the proper laboratory for the virus or bacteria to... Create conditions for bacteria to grow and attack you. So, for Béchamp, the internal structure, the internal environment would be responsible for the diseases. And so, this would lead human beings to make connections about his psychological life and the
stress of society, social structure, and his diseases.
If we had continued his studies, we would
Richard: have arrived at this conclusion. But that was completely cut out of science. People wanted to make money from drugs to fight the germs that Pasteur had suggested. And so Bechamp's idea was not interesting for them. But Dr. Keppe has finished now, I think, Bechamp and Gustav Enderlein from Germany. These two guys were exploring this.
Cesar: And Claude Bernard. Claude Bernard,
Richard: too, of France. We're exploring this inner environment, and Dr. Keppe now has really completed this study, this science, showing Pasteur to be a complete imposter, and a completely bad scientist, and that all of our health conditions are created by our internal psychological life, not our physical life. Our physical is totally dominated by our psychological, spiritual aspect. And this is the great completion that Dr.
Keppe has done to remove all of these seven beasts, or at least to correct their mistakes and put us on the right path again.
Cesar: Yeah, and the basic spirit, Pastor, helped spread out in the world was the spirit of paranoia. Humanity has never been so paranoid like now. We believe if you do not wash your hands continuously, you will get sickness from outside.
And even if this false prophet going against what Christ said in the Bible, what turns a man
Richard: filthy. Right, right. The filth, what makes
Cesar: a man filthy is something. "It's not what comes in from his mouth, but what comes out from the mouth." That our sickness comes from our thoughts, from our wrong desires, and not from what we eat. But it's not a fruit that was not washed properly that will cause you a disease.
It's not the flu of somebody else that will make you become sick as well, you know.
Richard: It's something going on inside you. Dr. Keppe talks about this as that what makes a person sick is when the inner force loses power. When our immune system loses force, it can't fight. And this is caused by our attitude, by our psychological... Spiritual attitude about things.
Cesar: I had a friend, Richard, who told me that always when he didn't want to go to work, he wanted to get flu.
Richard: He wanted to get a flu or a cold or something.
Cesar: Yes, a flu or a cold. And he got because it was appropriate for him. It was like nice for him. He could stay at home watching a football and this repeatedly. So human beings, they use these tricks even if it's unconscious. Now, what
Richard: is the great thing that Dr. Keppe has done for us as we wrap up our podcast?
What has he been able to do with his Science of Analytical Trilogy, in your opinion?
He has resolved these questions we've been dealing with with these seven men and found a new science, new orientation. How would you describe what he's done? Dr.
Cesar: Keppe made a huge, huge, huge work. And I suggest all of the listeners to go to the internet and try to find more about Dr. Keppe's work. Because Dr. Keppe is just pointing out the basic mistakes of these false prophets, let's say.
And the mistake is that we always wanted to look for our happiness and our problems outside of us. And he created a method called interiorization method that leads you to identify inside of you your problems that you are seeing outside. For example, whenever I give a practical example, whenever some kind of problem bothers you, you may ask this question, what do I associate that thing?
And let me give a practical example.
A friend of mine he was in a traffic and he was very pissed off with the traffic, and then when the traffic started to move another guy came from the back and just cut in front of him, and he got extremely furious. When I asked him why did you get furious, he got a headache after that and he starts to blow up the horn and say "wow you're dishonest, how do you do that, I'm here half an hour stop and when the traffic start to move you past my front.
Son
Richard: of a bitch." And
Cesar: then he said, "well, I got so furious because the guy was so dishonest." I said to him, "you praise dishonest in your life.
Richard: You think that dishonesty has an advantage.
Cesar: It has an advantage." This is his unconscious wish. Yes. He believes that dishonest can give you advantages in life. One
Richard: of my students had exactly the same reaction and I I asked him about the same thing, and he said, "well, that guy is getting there ahead of me."
I said, "so you see an advantage in this kind of behavior, but it's not an advantage to be like that. Somebody who cuts in front of you like that is being very dangerous and is not being of a benefit to themselves." And it was very interesting with this student. I took a bunch of students out for pizza a few months later, and the pizza was very slow to arrive.
So how did my student react? He reacted with aggression. He got up. He pounded the table. He said, "where's our pizza?" And then he sat down with a big smile on his face and he said, "now we'll get some service." So he saw advantage in aggressive behavior. He saw that that's how you get things done.
Cesar: Yeah. And Richard, another very simple example is when we criticize politicians because they impose a lot of taxes here in Brazil.
It's so common that there are lots of taxes and they steal money from
Sofie: the people.
This everybody knows here. And people get furious with
Richard: them. And why do they get furious? Because they see an advantage in robbing. Yeah, they think that guy's getting an advantage by getting some money for nothing. Getting money for nothing is an advantage.
Cesar: And this has nothing to do with the fact of stealing or not. Because, of course, to steal is a bad thing and must be punished.
It is not this we are discussing. The fact is that if you get involved to the point of getting a headache, it's because you have the same idea unconsciously, you don't think you have but unconsciously you have
Richard: and Dr. Keppe has also corrected the wrong metaphysics of Aristotle, we do not understand reality through our senses, we understand reality through the essence of ourselves, through the contact with the universals which is the fingerprints of God inside
Cesar: the human being, and this is an enormous advancement for philosophy.
So I see let's say in a spiritual way of seeing things, I see Dr. Keppe with Analytical Trilogy is debunking this false prophet and enthroning back the God Spirit, the Holy Spirit in society. He's simply giving conditions to the human being, to all the population, to look for what is good for themselves and for society as a whole.
Richard: Debunking the false prophets.
Yeah, there's something extraordinary in putting humanity back on track again. Keppe says in his new physics book that science, having followed Aristotle, embraced his wrong ideas, his inverted ideas. And Keppe's work is a humble attempt to set that right again. You can find his new physics book on our website at heatingthroughconsciousness.com. That is our program for this time. The program is Thinking with Somebody Else's Head.
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"Humankind's greatest problem is thinking that what we don't see won't hurt us." Norberto Cappi. Disinverting the human being and society.
Cláudia: I remember the book Glorification that Dr. Cappi wrote. I was with him many of the nights or days where he got those inspirations from God, and it was a necessity for him to write what he received.
So the book was totally written under inspiration. But it's not only a theological book. It's mostly a scientific book, very therapeutic book, very beautiful, by the way. And he used to wake up during the night, 2, 3 in the morning, and he said, "let's go to the top of the mountain." And we were watching the sky in this dark night with no interference, so you could transcend the sky and see heaven through it.
Oh, my God. You could adapt the writings that he did with the music of Beethoven, and this would be a trilogy of his writings, and the music would be heaven.
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