Richard Lloyd Jones: I'm Richard Lloyd Jones and welcome to Thinking with Somebody Else's Head. Norberto Keppe's book, Liberation of the People, is the most complete book I know about the pathology of power. It explores the psychological condition that lies behind the lust for power and shows clearly that this drive is most times fueled by a pathological desire for self-service and narcissism, not for the common good.
It's extremely important to perceive that the established powers have been organized so as to control the will of the people, paralyzing their capacity to act. Noberto Keppe writes in this profound book. In other books, Keppe writes forcefully about secret groupings of powerful people acting in the shadows as constituting the basis of all social sickness. Here he's talking about the Bilderbergers and the Trilateral and the secret societies at Yale and all that mess.
And just saying that pushes you into the territory of conspiracy theory for some. I mean, what's next? Questioning the moon landing? But Keppe's voice is not strident or self-righteous. It's a fresh breath of sanity into this minefield of subterfuge. Rockefeller and the Shattered American Dream, today, on Thinking with Somebody Else's Head. I kind of slipped the Rockefeller name in at the end there, didn't I?
A little radio host dramatics there. Please forgive me the technique. It does make for a catchy title, which is, of course, all-important in this world of information overload. But there is something to it as well. The Rockefeller family has loomed large over the 20th century, and largely not for good. We'll explore this terrible influence and its consequences in our show today, and then resolve with some solutions emerging from our Analytical Trilogy work here in Brazil that will leave you, hopefully, hopeful.
But let me begin with some perspective. On a marvelous blog put out by the Archdiocese of Washington, Monsignor Charles Pope looks compassionately at the 20th century, wherein it's estimated that 100 million people died in war and for ideological reasons. Monsignor Pope then goes on to lay out the legacy of the 20th century. It was a century of imposition of every form of collectivism, from communism and fascism to tribalism, socialism, with often disastrous consequences.
And I would just add wild capitalism to that list of isms that produced such dire results. War and terrorism ran rampant. Faith and religion were attacked, with the consequences appearing in the rise of moral relativism, indifference and cynicism, selfishness and unabashed materialism, depression and people losing hope. He also applauds the progress of the 20th century in the invention of all sorts of technological marvels from radio and TV to microchips and space travel, summing up by saying the 20th century, the worst and the best all at once.
Monstrosities and moonwalks is how he put it. But what caught my attention was Monsignor Pope's next paragraph. Quote, I am of the mind that to understand the 20th century and its colossal contours, No simple or natural explanation is possible, Monsignor Pope wrote. The bloodshed is too global, too organized and sweeping to be merely of human origin, he thinks. And then he quotes from St.
Paul, For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in high places. Paul says in Ephesians. And Monsignor Charles Pope then tells the story I have heard from various sources over the past 10 years, including Norberto Keppe and Cláudia Bernhardt Pacheco. And I tread into this very delicately, but very insistently, that it's important for us to know.
October 13, 1884, Pope Leo XIII had just finished celebrating Mass in a chapel in the Vatican. At the Mass were a few cardinals and members of the household staff, suddenly the Pope stopped at the foot of the altar. He stood there for about ten minutes, as if in a trance, his face ashen white. Then, going straight away from the chapel to his office, he composed the prayer to St.
Michael, and later issued instructions that it be said after all low masses everywhere in the world. He explained that as he was about to leave the foot of the altar, he had suddenly heard voices. Two voices, one kind and gentle, the other guttural and harsh. Then he heard the voice of Satan in his pride, boasting to our Lord, I can destroy your church.
The gentle voice of our Lord, You can? Then go ahead and do so. Satan replied, To do so I need more time and more power. The Lord said, How much time, how much power? Seventy-five to a hundred years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service, was Satan's reply. Mysteriously, our Lord said, You have the time, you have the power, do with them what you will.
Well, this is a well-known story in esoteric communities, but never touched on in our profane and secular world, and it can bring the insidious work of the ne'er-do-wells in the shadows into perspective. As I said, I tread into this very lightly. It's not territory I normally go into, but I think this is so phenomenal. And this morning, as I was writing the introduction to our program, I had this intuition, this sense that I needed to enter into here today, and hopefully you're following me.
Rockefeller and his cronies have cast a long and sinister shadow over the 20th century that could well be seen as playing part of this Luciferian plan Pope Leo told of. I know Malachi Martin, the great 20th century exorcist that Cláudia Bernhardt Pacheco thinks so highly of, believed much in Pope Leo's vision. And I believe strongly that drawing this bigger circle as a way to understand in a deeper way what's going on is an important step to take today, which is why I'm broaching it in our program.
Norberto Keppe's book, Universe of the Spirits, has helped me to cross this threshold and venture into the spiritual territory. So if you're in any way compelled to follow me in this thinking, I would encourage a deep reading of that remarkable book.
Let's dig into this more with Dr. Cláudia Bernhardt Pacheco. Rockefeller and the Shattered American Dream, when Thinking with Somebody Else's Head returns on the Stop Radio Network.
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Richard: The program is Thinking with Somebody Else's Head on our beautiful Stop Radio Network. Lots of good things happening for you there and our listener statistics continue to go up. That's fantastic and please let people know about what we're doing because I think it's very important. And Cláudia, I was a little depressed on Sunday. Why, Richard? No, not in a serious way. I was watching a movie.
Actually, a movie that
Cláudia Bernhardt Pacheco: you told me about. Thank you very much. By the way, which
Richard: one? Called Revolutionary Road with Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet about the loss of the American dream. I don't know if you remember it. A domestic. Yeah, okay. Well, you told me about it. This is some time now. And uh there's a couple of things that that got me.
But the first was, and I want, this is the area I wanted to sort of work with you a little bit on, because I'm seeing a lot of this happening in occupy movements and protest movements around the world, this thing of projection. Oh no,
Cláudia: I I think I remember
Richard: a little
Cláudia: bit. Okay, a problem between a
Richard: couple. They had these dreams of going to Paris, of having a different life, and then they kind of got trapped in the suburbs.
...in the American dream and had kids, had to maintain their house. And there are many factors in this that are interesting, so I don't want to talk about all of them. But this one particularly, where the woman blamed the man for her not being able to live life, really struck me. And of course then he, blaming the woman and the family on the reason he needed to keep working inside this job that he hated.
So there was projection going on all over the place. And this is something that Dr. Keppe's work really helps us to understand better, doesn't it? This idea that we don't see the problem in ourselves, we see it in other people.
Cláudia: Yes, Jones. And in this area that you talked about, there is a lot of pathology also going on in social values. A lot of inversion.
People are totally upside down in what they think is a happy life. A happy couple, a happy life. I don't know if we have this still so much. I know we don't. Thanks God. We don't have that as much as we used to have 40 years ago.
Richard: That was the American dream.
Cláudia: 30 years ago, the American dream. So people should have a house and a family and kids and support them to have them in a good school and have a Sunday life in the church and have the neighbors coming for dinner and living together, blah, blah.
But all hypocrisy. So the
Richard: revolution of the 60s was already bringing up this concept of happy life because everybody tried hard to have a happy life, but the more they tried and the more they got into it, into these values, they got worse and worse. Yeah, like in a prison, right? Like
Cláudia: in a prison. So I bring here, Jones, a subject that I spoke about in a very simple book I wrote for beginners, the ABC of Analytical Trilogy.
Richard: Available in English.
Cláudia: Yes, and in nine languages already. Right. Yeah. Incredible. So if
Richard: you want to know the basics of Analytical Trilogy, ABC of Analytical Trilogy can be purchased in our site, isn't it?
Cláudia: It's everywhere. Okay, but going back to that thing, Richard, have you thought that all these standards of happy life were decided, planned by the powerful, what would mean to have a happy life for a person, for a couple?
All those standards were determined, pre-planned by the powerful. Some of those by the religious powerful, the churches. So they can control better the population. Other is the the ideas, the economic ideas of patrimonio. I don't know how do
Richard: you say this in English, inheritance, I think.
Cláudia: The collective inheritance that we have, the goods, you you have the as
Richard: a company, as a country, as a
Cláudia: family, a house and your belongings.
Yeah, so all this is like decided by people who uh who write the laws, who be what belongs to whom, and this is mine. You have a a deed that says this is belongs to you, this worth something, and then you pay taxes for that. And then if if you have this like this deed, then other people can't step in your property and your this property.
Concepts were all decided by the powerful. But unfortunately not only that. If you think behind what is the real real true, like the real concept of american dream that americans developed after mostly after the second world war, being a hero fighting for your banner, for your country, dying for your country, which by the way had never ever anything to do with the country, but only had to do with the economic powerful interests.
So there was this concept of being a hero dying for your country, and also having your family and your kids and being married in inside an institutional church, and stay in marriage, and the
Richard: fences and the properties. And so what and
Cláudia: how much would you spend in your life? What should you buy? The dresses you should use, the shirts, the suits, the shoes, the cars, the standard of homes.
And what should you have in order to be considered a respectable citizen of
Richard: American society? And a TV set and electro-electronics in your house. And watching these TV shows and buying this laundry soap and all of that.
Cláudia: Exactly that. So, have you ever thought who determined that people should have cars and ride on the roads all over United States in those hotels and motels and everything and movies?
Richard: So all of this,
Cláudia: you have mostly, mostly one man's or one family's mentality that led to these implications. And this is Rockefeller society. Most of what you had in the United States and some in Canada because you went behind them. And in the world, the
Richard: Western world, as a consequence, who decided we should drive cars instead of taking trains? Can I give you an example of this?
Rockefeller
Cláudia: did, with his
Richard: oil. For sure. And he was friends with Henry Ford. And Henry Ford was one of the largest proponents of creating the suburbs. He wanted to create the suburbs outside the city, because then you would have to drive your
Cláudia: car. For sure, and spend gas. Yeah. So medical ideas, educational concepts, media, movies, everything had this Mr. Rockefeller and his family behind it.
And not only him and his family, but his friends, like Brzezinski, who was the guy who decided that the third era or the third millennium or the last century would be the century of the electro-electronics. And that's how we live. So a decent citizen or a person who is inside society must have a cell phone or two cell phones and an iPad.
So all these people decide what is happiness and what is the consequence. They even decided that if you feel unhappy, you have some sort of problem in your brain cells. And you need to take medical, like medicines, and you have to pay for pharmaceutical companies, because then the doctors and psychiatrists decided, but not them alone, the medical, the American Medical Association, which is led by
Richard: the Rockefeller Foundation.
So they decided if you are neurotic or not, if you should be happy inside this horrible society they organized or they disorganized for us to live, which is an enormous prison. They picked up on Brzezinski a long time ago. Brzezinski is kind of sociopathic. Brzezinski said, how are we going to keep people content in a society where people are losing their jobs?
What are we going to do? So he created a name called Tititainment, where you show lots of naked women on television and sports spectacles to keep people amused so that they will tolerate the decadence of the values in society. It's like the bread and circuses of the Romans. It's exactly the same
Cláudia: thing. And you see Mr. Rockefeller founding a church, Baptist Church.
And like when I lived in New York City, we went to Rockefeller Riverside Church. And why did he do that if he was not really a Christian? He was Christian just for his own interest, because political and economic and
Richard: social, because Christian families would follow him and his ideas as peaceful ships.
Cláudia: Ships. Peaceful. Cordeiros. Carneiros. Oh, sheep. I don't know how to
Richard: say this word.
This is a hard word for Brazilians. I have to say very difficult words in Portuguese. But you
Cláudia: imagine that this family was so smart. That they even created an aura of Christianity so they could control the whole country. The whole country. With an anti-Christ. Anti-Christ philosophy. And so even the
Richard: Christmas parties
Cláudia: were created by them. The concept
of what does it mean to have a turkey in this Thanksgiving day?
And what does it mean to be an American citizen during Christmas time and during vacation time and at school? So they made the rules. So America for the last, at least the last century, was led and oriented and directed by Rockefeller family and his partners and their partners. Cohorts. So, my God, what does it mean then to be an American? What is the identity of an American citizen?
At least in France, we know what a French guy is.
Cláudia: And in Brazil, we don't have like a pattern of behavior. If you go to the north, you have one citizen. And then if you go to south, you have another one. And in São Paulo, you have, it's like a bagunça. It's like chaos
Richard: in this sense. In a nice way. So here we are like more individuals in this sense.
We have more freedom. But be an American, a North American citizen, means you have to be the way they expected you to be. And this they, it's not really a democratic government. You see it like a
Cláudia: programming. Just a facade of a
Richard: democracy. So it's like a programming.
Cláudia: It's a programming. So I feel so sorry for the Americans, North Americans, because, you know, when they want to be happy, they have to go away from North America.
They have to
Richard: leave their countries, and sometimes they can't fit in a more normal society because they are so programmed to behave in a way that they have to behave inside the United States that they don't
Cláudia: know how to behave.
Richard: Exactly. We have a very good friend who comes here often. I won't use his name just in case he doesn't want this to be said, but when he comes down here, he says he feels so free here.
He goes over to our shopping center across the street, and he'll see a student of our school,
Cláudia: and he'll sing to them. And everybody loves it. You do that in North America. My God, you'll be like in a mental hospital.
Richard: Security.
Cláudia: Yes, yes. If you walk with more than one or two people on a sidewalk, like in Yonkers, there was a police car following us all the time.
What is this group going to do? Are they terrorists or something? So you can't even have friends and live in freedom. We went to some parks, everything forbidden. Don't do this. Don't do that. Don't know this. Know that. No running. No jumping.
Richard: My God. And this is the land of freedom. How come? No swimming.
Cláudia: No swimming. No picnicking. No dogs. No cats.
No swimming, nothing, nothing, no music, no whatever. So you have some Bolsões, some small places where people are supposed to listen to music very loud, like Harlem. You can do that in Harlem, but only in Harlem. If you want to hear your records or whatever in your home, then, my God, the tenants in the same building will sue you. We'll call a fiscal, an agent or something to lock you up if necessary.
Richard: So I'm very, very sorry for these people
Cláudia: that are locked up. And they think they are the most free people in the freest country in the world. An example of democracy. So they should have a banner written, I belong to Rockefeller's
Richard: Foundation and I obey Rockefeller's. Rockefellers, ideals. Chase Manhattan owns my... Oh, my God. Terrible. So,
Cláudia: that's it.
Richard: And this is
Cláudia: not a projection.
Richard: This is the truth. This is the truth. We're coming back to discuss this further. This is really fascinating where you're taking us in terms of looking at this American dream. So, we're back in just a moment on Thinking with Somebody Else's Head on the Stop Radio Network.
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Richard: program is Thinking with Somebody Else's Head. I'm Richard Lloyd Jones with Cláudia Baron-Harposheko. We're on our new network, Stop Radio Network, streaming through iTunes and on our various sites around.
And soon to be in Windows Media, too. That's our next objective. We're loving the fact that you're spreading our message on Facebook and through your Twitter and social media networks and also through your friends because that's how we grow, really. We don't have the support of these large corporations spreading our
Cláudia: word. No, neither governments.
Richard: Thank God. And so we do everything through word of mouth, through the real development, the real guerrilla marketing that has to happen with programs like this.
And as I listen around, Cláudia, to radio programs, I don't hear anybody doing actually what we're doing. What I feel with radio stations very often, there's lots of people who are denouncing the situation, decrying the situation, criticizing the situation. But I don't hear this kind of therapeutic approach to try to make the link between, okay, this is where we went wrong and why we went wrong.
And the fact that when we went wrong back there, we went wrong based on diverting ourselves from a true course. Which was true then, is true now. Last night I was reading a text of Dr. Keppe's from work in Capital, which he wrote in 1987. And one of my students said, Richard, Dr. Keppe wrote this in 1987. He said, how is it possible that it's still relevant today?
And I said, well, that's universal. That's like when somebody says something universal, it's valid now, it's valid then, it's valid a thousand years ago, a thousand years from now. And so we're doing something, I think, really beautiful on our programs, and I really want people to, I guess the bottom line of this, to get people to
Cláudia: spread this. We can now go a little bit more in depth about psychopathology and understand why people follow this
Richard: crazy lunatic, crazy lunatic powerful.
Like you said, Richard, in the 60s, a revolution started, and it was a good revolution, but then the smart guys came with the drugs, and they did two kinds of slavery with the drugs, slaveries. One is the economic slavery because they don't legalize drugs because they want to do this mafia thing behind. They have huge billionaire, trillionaire profits. And they do wars to preserve their opium in the Middle East and in Afghanistan and other countries and in South America too.
So we know there is a lot of dirty stuff behind the scenes with this drug business. Which doesn't come out because it's not legalized, as you said.
Cláudia: Because if they legalized, they would know where the profits go to and for whom. Now, we have also another thing, which is a worse slavery even than the economic one, which is the psychological slavery that drugs create.
So those people who are starting to rethink the values and think, Oh my God, am I really free in this society? Am I really free? I want to be free. I'm locked up, and my parents, my... Teachers, the governments, the politicians, the priests, the pastors are all locking me up with their institutionalized dogmas and standards of life and the rules. What is the good and the goodness for a person to live locked up in a family or in a job or in a country for all their lives long without being able to do something really useful and beautiful for themselves?
And society, just obeying the powerful. So they started to question this. And when they did, and they were already getting somewhere, what happened? They brought this deception. You want to disobey, you want to oppose your parents and society and the church, so you take drugs because then you will liberate your consciousness. It's like another apple, a second apple that was brought or a third apple, whatever apple, but it's like an apple brought by Satan telling them you will have even more consciousness.
And how come people can be conscious and be aware if they have their brains destroyed by the drugs? And on the opposite, all their freedom, their free choice is like blocked out. A person who gets hooked on drugs, death is the destiny, like a precocious death. And they don't even use it anymore, their intellect, their free choices, their talents, as they used to do.
Richard: Timothy Leary actually said, turn on, take drugs, and tune out, tune out of society.
Cláudia: Yes. Go away from society. You don't question anymore. You don't play any substantial, rational, constructive role in society anymore. And you just stay out in fantasy. So why did people accept this?
Richard: And the Vietnam War, too, Cláudia, people forced, they created the draft for the Vietnam War. So young men and mostly young men at that time were forced to go to war, to follow the rules, to follow the system.
Cláudia: In order to bear the situation, they took drugs. Exactly. Now, not only that, but you know, we are upside down. We have an inverted reaction. The first reaction we have is not a normal one, a natural one. Our reactions are mostly upside down. So we understand that consciousness and reality is a burden in itself. So being in fantasy, like having a life of leisure, and it's the maximum of happiness and freedom.
Doing nothing, yeah. So this is totally upside-down concept that humankind have. And not only that, but also these drugs give us a totally megalomaniac idea, superpower. We get like superpower, supermen, superwomen, being something that in reality we are not, but we have this deformed idea about ourselves. As big ones and big shots and so smart. So these feed our megalomania, our theomania.
And another thing is that people have an idea, upside-down idea, that what they would like to be, even an envy, they envy the powerful people. They see in the richest ones, the millionaires, the billionaires, like the models to be followed.
Richard: I want a piece of that. I want to be
Cláudia: like them because they have the answer, they are successful, they know how to do things, so I want to be like them.
And they don't understand that those people are the unhappiest people in humanity. They are the useless people. They are smart in stealing others and enslaving others. Yes, they are. But they know nothing about science, about arts, about love, about happiness, about health, about balance, about wisdom, about anything. They don't know. They are not in the world. They are not in the true world.
They can't even enjoy what they have. They go to a beach with a beautiful woman and they don't enjoy them. They use them, but they don't enjoy. And why? Because beyond the life of money and properties, there is all this universe of beauty and goodness and love and vibration and freedom. And they can't enjoy this because they are locked up in their money.
They are the biggest slaves of themselves, of their own. So they end up by being caught by their own values, inverted values. So one day I attended a client and he was one of the biggest diplomats in Portugal, and he used to work inside the UN, and he was always around with all these big shots, and he was very rich himself and living inside this luxurious world.
And he came by chance to do analysis with me. He wanted to know Dr. Keppe's method. And he said, I can't go back to my childhood and resonate with beauty. I can't. I can't. I can't resonate with
Richard: life anymore. And this is my biggest, like, the biggest price I had. I paid,
I lost, I lost myself, I lost my soul in this.
So he said, I go to the beaches, I see the most beautiful landscape, and I can't enjoy it, I do not vibrate with anything. I see people around me, simple people, vibrating, being happy, loving each other, and living, and I can't be anymore.
Cláudia: I have, but I can't be. And this is the most horrible sensation a person can have. And please, liberate me from this.
Richard: Help me, please.
Cláudia: Help me, because I can't be a human being anymore.
Richard: Wow, Cláudia. Look at what he's saying there. So this is what happens when people want to reduce everything to money. Everything becomes about a monetary exchange, and we lose this sanity of being, These things that Dr. Keppe has called to be wise, to be an achiever, to do things, to be generous.
These kinds of things we lose when we want to have the money accolades. So this was lost. The 60s, I can feel I'm a product of this time. And I felt that we had something, I know I grew up thinking, I don't want to follow the pattern that everybody told me in school that I should follow. I can remember it very strongly.
Now, there's my own issues around that, but I didn't want to follow that path. I wanted to do something different. And it was very hard to find. It was until I found Trilogy, I
didn't really discover what that was. But all my life, I was moving in that
Cláudia: direction. So there must be many people today who are feeling that being trapped and wanting a way out.
Yes. How do we get out? What do we? Richard, I want to say that money and richness is not a sin. Right. It's not evil. It's very good. Money and richness is also something that God gave us to enjoy and to use for the benefit of ourselves and others. So the first thing to understand and to be free from this straitjacket
Richard: is
Cláudia: to understand what inversion is.
And to understand this, you must either do analysis or read the books that Dr. Keppe and some of his followers wrote. I myself wrote some of them. And so this is a new science. This is like a new form of psychoanalysis, an integral psychoanalysis. So you must understand this. You must learn. You must study even. So my suggestion is that people should read, should go inside our TV programs and start watching them.
And if possible, even doing analysis by phone or by Skype because we have a center here that attends clients in English, in Spanish, in Italian, Swedish, Finnish, German. Around the world. Yeah. So people can call in and they can have some sessions. But mostly read the books before because they should read at least one or two books to start getting inside this new science.
It's a totally new philosophy, a new science. And must be studied and
Richard: understood. You were saying before our show, too, that we
Cláudia: want to start some courses for people to come down here and actually study, learn, develop here in Brazil with us. Yes, yes. There is a one-month training course for psychosociotherapists or psychosociotherapists, so people could come and learn about psychosociotherapy. Own psychotherapy.
They would have a sociotherapy inside this situation and they could go back to their countries and bring some knowledge and benefit for their friends and their relatives or whatever. And, you know, they can come and stay for a month and they can stay longer for three months. If they enjoy staying, they can apply for three months or even six months training here.
And it's allowed to be in Brazil for that period. So we have in our site some of this still in Portuguese, but people can write in their languages and we can answer them in all those languages I spoke about. So our site is
Richard: www.keppipacheco.com. There you'll find all
Cláudia: the information. Write to us.
Richard: There's lots of information available. And if people want to find it, they will find it.
And then come,
Cláudia: because it will be a wonderful experience for you. I know from personal experience the great value for all of us and the
world that lies in Norberto Keppe's science of Analytical Trilogy. That is our program for this week. Thinking with Somebody Else's Head is on the Stop Radio Network.
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